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« on: July 27, 2010, 06:42:14 PM » |
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I'm a first timer. In creating my web site, I used flash buttons to go from my home (index.htm) page to other pages. All of the links worked. I could go to a page, and then to a subset of that page and back again to navigate anywhere around the site. But when I published the site, only my index page showed up on the web. When I clicked the flash buttons, I got a "page can't be found" message. I went back to Dreamweaver and did a sitewide check of my links and found there were 27 of them that were broken, which is pretty much all that I had. In the Results section I see the broken links but they don't appear the way I created them. Before, to create a link, all I had to do either drag the arrow from the link window, to the file I wanted to link to, or in the case of the flash buttons, use the edit feature to define the link. Everything worked tickety-boo. Now everything looks different and nothing works. To give you one example, when I look at the Results of my sitewide search, under the broken links list on the files side of the page I see "/public_html/index.htm." This is not what I named the file. I called my index, or home, page "index.htm". I know Just Host, my web provider, required that I upload my site into a folder called "public_html" so I assume they added a prefix to my index page. On the other side under broken links I see "../Templates/mm_entertainment.css". My "index.htm" page is contained in a folder called Templates but this address string does not include a mention of the index. The "mm" I know is how I reference a photo on my index page but I don't have a link to the photo, and I don't know what to make of the "entertainment.css" part. I didn't use CSS in creating my site. I chose to use templates and frames because CSS was too much for my tiny little brain to comprehend at this stage in my development. Can anyone offer suggestions about what to do?
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 12:33:08 AM » |
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I always had trouble with Dreamweaver. I went the easy way with this! http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/They have a 30 day trial.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 01:11:38 AM » |
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Yeah, I hate Dreamweaver, prefer Coffee Cup and that is saying something, usually just cold code, if I can be bothered anymoe.
we are not really a tech site, although we do have a tech section, its under "new fangled.. something or other" down the page a bit, so I'll move this there.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 11:50:29 AM » |
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 I've always had trouble with geriatrics replying to posts from spambots. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 04:29:25 PM » |
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lol yeah it is a spam post.. cause like if ppl thought about it, its been edited by me... i just wanted to see if it would come back and reedit the links in that i edited out :p
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2010, 01:40:43 AM » |
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 I was in a hurry and didn't have time to check this one, besides, useful info for some members maybe. I use UBCD, obvious url, and an all zeros wipe to delete an entire machine, otherwise just format the partition, assuming the site is on its own partition. Cheers
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2010, 10:59:34 AM » |
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dint have tiome to read the post either.. which unlike the thread title, is about web stuff :p
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 11:08:50 AM » |
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 Well, depends if you are running a dedicated web server I guess - just why you would for a home site - different story. Speaking of which, Homesite is/was, haven't used it in a while, a pretty good web development tool. Cheers
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 11:36:09 AM » |
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So is Notepad, which is all I've ever used.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 12:36:56 PM » |
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 Yeah, I still use notepad, mostly for editing these days, is what I meant by cold coding, but the name of the game commercial side is rapid development and numerous tools are out there to make that possible. Coffee Cup sort of works, with a bit of hoop jumping, numerous friends who develop for a living love Ruby on Rails, it looks good, not developed anything in it myself though, I'm not really a coder anymore, too busy on other stuff  Cheers
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2010, 05:14:23 PM » |
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So is Notepad, which is all I've ever used.
 No offense, but... I can kinda tell that by looking at your website. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2010, 06:05:33 PM » |
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What do you mean? any shortcomings with my site are as a result of my lack of knowledge, not due to any faults with Notepad.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2010, 08:06:32 PM » |
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 Notepad works fine Jamie, cooked up many a web-page in it a long time back and beiing you actually write the HTML you know what is there. For forums it is probably much simpler to work with SMF, but as an editor it is still a great way to see what is going on. i think Sam has done a great job with his site from cold code, there are worse sites out there that actually paid for development software  Cheers
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2010, 05:08:51 AM » |
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 No, I wasn't talking about forums, I was talking about web sites in general. My josh was about the fact that Sam's site is pretty basic HTML and not much else and hasn't changed any in the entire time I've been familiar with it. That said, he does make a valid point regarding that being due to a lack of knowledge and not deficiency in notepad. Sure, if you know how to hand code it and have the time and desire to do so then Notepad would probably suffice. It's been a while since I had a play with any development software and I won't claim to be all that knowledgeable about any of it, but that said. CoffeeCup did what I wanted it to do at the time but I can't recall exactly what that was. Dreamweaver seemed not much different from Photoshop in that there’s a steep learning curve and one I didn’t have time for. I haven't ever used RoR and so I can't at all comment there. I can add a bit on the subject of coding versus using development software. My own website died a horrible death due to utter neglect on the part of its owner. I neglected to pay the bill, never saw the reminder emails and Lunar Pages suspended the account. By the time I became aware of it, some time had passed and their Gestapo trained customer service people were as helpful as ever. They couldn’t tell me whether my data was still on the server or not. I was basically told that I could pay them $100+ to renew the hosting for another year, at which point I could access Cpanel myself and see if anything was still there… Thanks, but no thanks… I moved my hosting business to Host Gator but I haven’t had time to do a thing with it. When I do, it’s going to be a repeat of what I did before. I started with basic hand coded HTML and CSS for the site itself and open source for things such as a forum, blog, photo gallery, etc. The thing is, my site, if I ever have time to get around to it, is a combination of a learning exercise and a blending of two of my great loves, cooking and computers. How long it takes isn’t important. In fact, it’s been a year and a half since I first had the idea and I still have nothing to show for it. That’s fine for a personal hobby but if you’re developing for a living and the guy on the phone, to paraphrase Heinlein, doesn’t want it good, he wants it Wednesday, then you may find notepad to be somewhat wanting.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2010, 09:48:19 AM » |
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2010, 10:50:58 AM » |
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You DO realize that section 14, subsection 27, paragraph 38 of the forum RULES clearly states that if you post the same link twice in the same thread, you're automatically banned? *Looks for ban button. * 
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2010, 01:55:45 AM » |
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pfft, I just use Seamonkey's Composer, makes putting webpages together nice and simple. I started off building pages in notepad and the like, but decided I had better things to do with my time. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2010, 10:16:39 AM » |
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You DO realize that section 14, subsection 27, paragraph 38 of the forum RULES clearly states that if you post the same link twice in the same thread, you're automatically banned? *Looks for ban button. *  I blame old age and alcohol!
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2010, 11:09:32 AM » |
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I blame old age and alcohol!
Sorry but Chris already owns exclusive rights to that excuse. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2010, 11:33:02 AM » |
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 Actually, don't all faint, but I stopped drinking, out to ten days now and not missing it at all, feeling MUCH better in fact  Cheers
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2010, 12:16:04 PM » |
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 Actually, don't all faint, but I stopped drinking, out to ten days now and not missing it at all, feeling MUCH better in fact  Cheers You've found a more efficient method?
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2010, 12:44:03 PM » |
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]You've found a more efficient method?
 An IV drip would suffice but then, you loose the taste aspect... I've been drinking cheap Jim Beam of late but this afternoon, I decided to be both a real Tennessee boy and stop my grandfather from spinning in his grave and so I bought a bottle of Jack Daniel's black label. I'm feeling VERY good at the moment and also being reminded of what I've been missing. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2010, 03:15:28 PM » |
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 Must admit my nicotine intake has risan a little, i don't expect that to be prolonged, took my mind off the booze for a couple of days. I don't expect it to be permanent, but with the stress of the past couple of years it had risen - time to have a clean out and then return to social drinking  Never really had much trouble picking it up or dropping it actually, given up for years at a time on occasion, but I do enjoy a drink so time to tame it down and step one of that is purge it out  cheers
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