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Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« on: February 14, 2007, 03:24:59 PM »
Then you need to read this.

(shamlessly ripped from http://www.straightrazorplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6759 )

NOTE! All $$ values are in seppo $s

   :exclamation CRITICAL INFO FOR NEW MEMBERS!!: Read This Before Buying/Using A Straight Razor!!

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This post attempts to provide you with information, video, and suggestions when you start shaving. It includes suggested equipment to avoid as well as a list of equipment with good reputations. There are help files and links to places to buy gear, links to videos on how to shave and strop and much more. There's even information on what to look for if you decide to shop on ebay.

If you take the time to read this entire post you should have a good idea on where to start. This website also has a great search option that can provide you with member questions and discussion within the forums. Good Luck and Happy Shaving.

READ THIS BEFORE BUYING A NEW RAZOR!!!:
When you see "shave ready" and it's straight from the factory, it's not really shave ready. Unless it's from one of the honemeisters here or someone you trust with honing, It will likely need to be honed BEFORE you use it. WHY? CLICK HERE if you're really interested in the reason. Otherwise just trust me .

Basic gear needed:
1 to 2 shave ready razors
hanging strop (linen optional)
soap or creams
mug or scuttle
brush
Lynn Abram's Video on shaving, stropping, etc. (optional but HIGHLY recommended, can be bought directly from Lynn by sending paypal to:lsabrams@adelphia.net or purchased at www.classicshaving.com, or www.vintagebladesllc.com)

Soaps, mugs and brushes?
SOAP
To get started you can go to most any pharmacy such as cvs, walgreens, etc. and get a puck of Van Der Hagen (Surrey) soap to start. Other good soaps are arko and proraso. Some like Williams Mug Soap. Some Targets carry Proraso, but it's not in the shaving section. It's usually in a special aisle with men's skin care products.
BRUSH
To start a 5 dollar boars hair brush from walgreens/cvs etc. will do
MUG
Again, to start you can get a 2 dollar mega mug at a market such as wal-mart.

Eventually you'll probably want a nice badger brush made with winter hair and a really cool mug or scuttle. There are also lots of cool soaps to try.

Skin Care
Styptic Pencil and/or Alum Block
Witch Hazel
After-shave of your choice (optional)
Pre-shave of your choice (optional)

The basics for skin care is a shave soap that doesn't irritate or dry your skin, something to stop the bleeding if you nick yourself, and witch hazel to sooth your skin after the shave. Some report better results with preshave creams. Some like fancy After-shaves. Once you're into it, It's all about you and what you like.

various websites for soaps and skincare:
http://www.classicshaving.com
http://www.drugstore.com

SRP Members and websites to sharpen razors.
www.classicshaving.com
adjustme69 (Lynn Abrams)
JoeChandler (Joe Chandler)
Urleebird (Bill Ellis)
JoshEarl
FUD (Glen F)

Advanced gear once you're into it and want to sharpen
hones
paddle strops and pastes
1 to 3 practice razors to hone with. These will be good brand razors that will be decent shavers when you're done, but due to minor imperfections like chipped handles, beginning pitting/'pock marking', etc. it wouldn't be a blade you'd expect to pay a lot for or get a lot from as is.

Websites to look for gear:
www.classicshaving.com
www.billysblades.com
www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
www.straightrazordesigns.com
www.ShavingShop.com
http://shop.writerferret.com/
http://www.vintagebladesllc.com/

members here who regularly/semi-regularly sell great razors:
adjustme69 (Lynn Abrams)
urleebird (Bill Ellis)
JoeChandler (Joe Chandler)
Vladsch (Vlad)
PapaBull (Robert Williams)
xman

Some GOOD RAZOR BRANDS (this is just a starting point)
Maestro Livi, Dubl Duck, Dovo, Henkels, Revisor, Boker, Genco, Geneva, Clauss, Wade & Butcher, Robeson, Maher & Grosh, Puma, Thiers-Isard, Boker, King, Wostenholm, Fabyan, Geo Wostenholm,

Most any razor that was FORGED in Germany, England, France, Italy, are good blades. Razors marked Solingen that were FORGED in Solingen are good blades. Warning: See below for info about razors trying to be passed off as "solingen" razors.

Bad Razor Brands (stay away from these)
Zeepk, Master, MasterUSA, Kriegar, Steel Warrior, Sanguine, Simco, "Good Quality", "Special Quality", "Best Quality", "High Quality", "Two Man", pakistani (any razor made in pakistan), Razors "designed by Jim Frost"

There are some "no brand" razors on ebay dirt cheap. DON'T BUY. Also some razors have taken to painting "SOLINGEN" on the razor and are not dirt cheap but not overly expensive either, The blade is forged in pakistan and scales put on in germany so they are using a legal loop hole to claim these are manufactured in Solingen. this causes some problems. Watch out for them.

a few Ebay members that often sell good razors on ebay
altima55, manyware, Mr_Barence, portal5,

EBAY sellers to avoid
coonr, thebarterman60 (sells the razors designed by jim frost)

good hones to start out with
Norton 4000/8000 combo
Norton flattening stone (optional lapping stone for smoothing your hone, you can use 300grit wet dry sand paper and plexiglass)

If you want to paste, start with these
http://shop.thewellshavedgentleman.c...g?categoryId=4
pastes are usually measured in microns 1 micron diamond paste is equivalent to 14,000 grit. 1/2 micron (or .5 micron) diamond paste is equivalent to 60,000 grit. Using a pasted strop on a razor once every 20 to 30 shaves has been reported to touch up the razor enough that you can go longer between honing sessions with that razor.

Alternative gear for basic restoration
restoration CD from www.billysblades.com
variable speed dremmel or rotary tool, and buffing pads
Maas, flitz, or other metal polishes
Norton 1000 grit stone for setting the bevel (not necessary but helps it go faster)
If you need a regrind
http://www.billysblades.com. email urleebird@comcast.net
Ross Cutlery
310 South Broad
Los Angeles, CA 90013
ATTN: ALLEN
213 626-1897

shaving tips and good links

Helpful Video
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...d,17/Itemid,3/

SHAVING:
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...d,20/Itemid,3/
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...nload/gid,125/
http://www.menessentials.com/oxid.ph...ght_razors.tpl
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...d,23/Itemid,3/
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...wnload/gid,38/
(one handed shave)

video introducing straight shaving, includes video on how to strop and how to shave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Qqn...elated&search=

Stropping:
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...d,46/Itemid,3/
http://www.classicshaving.com/articl...90351/4057.htm
http://reviews.ebay.com/How-To-Use-a...:-1:LISTINGS:1

Honing:
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...wnload/gid,78/
http://www.classicshaving.com/articl...90351/4057.htm
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...wnload/gid,11/
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...wnload/gid,76/
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...wnload/gid,77/

FAQS
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...tegory/2/2/12/

Help files:
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/co...cman/Itemid,3/

IMPORTANT message
This post is a basic starting point and is by no means a complete list. It is subject to change without notice. There is all kinds of great information on this website not included in this post. There are also a LOT of brands, sellers to avoid. Therefore, if the brand/seller you're looking at getting isn't on this list and you're not 100% certain it's good, ASK! ASK! ASK!

DISCLAIMERS:
Information listed here, both positive and negative, is provided based on SRP Member feedback and comments. ALL information is posted as personal opinion under the rights of freedom of speech. Razors of any form are a tool, not a toy. Use caution when handling or shaving with any razor of any kind. Shaving with a straight razor is an art for some, therapy for others and an addiction for still others. Start at your own risk. The information on this website is provided as is, without any warranties expressed or implied. By browsing this website and/or using the information herein you are releasing www.straightrazorplace.com and its owners, administrators, moderatiors, members, affiliates, web hosts, guests, contributors or otherwise from all liabilities and responsibilities arising from said usage. You must be at least 18 years of age or older to pick your nose in public.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2007, 03:25:45 PM by Lancer »

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2007, 09:23:29 PM »
Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?

Yes. :)

I got my old trusty out of a box I had in storage a few weeks ago and had very little idea of where to start. It needed a little bit of a cleanup and a bit of sharpening I knew that. But, other then that I was a bit lost. Put it on my shelf and have spent a week or so just looking at it.

Top fuggin post mate. :)

Ive gone threw and read alot of the linkage and bookmarked some of the others.

Excellent post for us cuttthroat noobs.

Thanx muchly Lancer. :)

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2007, 09:28:30 PM »
you're welcome, I just wish I knew all that stuff before hand.

BTW, I'm getting some material together to put new scales on a few of the older ones here.

I may have some available in a month or two.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 09:53:19 PM »
I saw your other thread with all your kit, very nice. :)

If your going to have 1 or 2 go on the market lemme know. Would very much like atleast 1 more.

This is the 1 Ive got at the mo.



Needs a little tidy up but is fine otherwise.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 09:43:34 PM »
Those are some good old razors.
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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2017, 01:38:15 PM »
I used to use a cut throat, Still have Pops old stop.  But its a lot of work at five or six AM before rushing to work.  Its a skill worth knowing.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2017, 09:03:59 PM »
I use an old school safety razor (Double edge razor).  I find it just as good, but better for the 'quick shave'. 
However, I do plan on learning on how to make straight edge razors.  But will have to wait.  Don't have all the tools needed to do a good hollow grind to get the edge needed.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 01:37:50 PM »
Anyone know a good place or online to get a half decent shaving brush?

I just threw mine out, lasted barely a year before the entire bristle bundle just fell out... probably due to me using boiled water and dipping it.  Cheaparsed shit with plastic handle and the bundle merely glued together.
I put up with it for probably another year, slowly but surely though it just continued to drop bristles not to mention needing to be gripped such that it wouldn't fall apart again.  Only bought the stupid thing so I wouldn't have to put up with shaving cream on my hand and the face washer.
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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2017, 02:53:28 PM »
:)

I gave up using them years ago, just use gel but this is a pretty good site from another forum I hang around on

http://www.theguysshavingclub.com/shaving-brush-review/

Mine is still in the cupboard and it was my dads, second one down on the list, not horribly expensive :)

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2017, 10:17:33 PM »
Seems badger hair is top of the line, then boar hair.  Pretty sure mine had camel hair.
One thing majorly different is the way the bristles stick out on those ones - you can tell by the thickness difference that they seem to be clamped in well and good at the handle end.  The one I had, there was only a slight outward taper of the bristles, hence the way it just fell apart after a year of exposure to hot water.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 10:30:30 AM »
Yes, in the UK badger is definitely top of the line and done very ethically.

I'm not aware if badgers exist in Australia so you are probably looking at an import.

Cute creatures, had one in our garden for years when I was growing up, they just sort of bumble around and sleep a lot :)

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2017, 09:26:03 PM »
Must have been a thread @ the other place, sure Chris mentioned shaving gel as opposed to cream.

I picked some Nivea stuff up at Woolworths as it was going cheap.  TBH it seems exactly the same as cream when you're at the end of the aerosol and the foaming agent has run out but there's still propellant and soap remaining.

That said, I shaved tonight though with a fresh start on a triple-Gillette razor and did one side gel, second side foam.  It's hard to tell the diff but it feels like the gel has the slight edge on smooth areas but the foam did better on my neck where it generally gets a bit rougher.  Though I generally do a better job on the RH side of my neck, for whatever reason I usually do a good job of missing stuff and cutting myself on the other side (usually just do right-handed for all the razor work).

Probaly the worst shaving stuff I ever used was this tube of Palmolive cream stuff, it was next to useless to shave with but was excellent as an after shave treatment as in it releived any cuts and put out a nice odour.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2017, 05:24:31 PM »
:)

Yeah, I picked up some of the Nivea Gel the other day, it's not bad but it's not great either - unusual for that brand,

When you next need blades though try Fusion, really good shave in my opinion :)

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2017, 09:41:32 AM »
Gillette Sensor 3 is the one I have now, I picked a few packs up at cheap rates.  I can recall using Fusion too, similar.
I find the Gillettes about the only disposables that agree with me.  The Bics are just nasty and anything non-branded the same.

Another nice thing I found with these Sensors is if you tap them too hard the blade carrier just comes off but you can snap it back on similar to the disposable head system.

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2017, 01:17:11 PM »
Heh,

I typically only use disposables when I travel and that is usually because I get yanked somewhere at five minutes notice and forget to pack the razor :)

I really don't like them much, but I dislike two day growth more...

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2017, 08:03:26 AM »
ppfftt i just use clippers, no need for razors at all :p

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Re: Thinking of using a cutthroat razor?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2017, 10:31:24 PM »
Hey!  Long time, no see.  What you been up to?