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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #75 on: November 11, 2013, 09:28:01 PM »
Indeed, although I have another reason these days, it's my wedding anniversary.

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2013, 06:53:01 AM »
 :)

Smartass :)

The last one.

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« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2013, 10:41:42 AM »
:)

Smartass :)

The last one.

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« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2013, 12:56:13 PM »
 rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

In my experience the one is usually the other :)

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« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2013, 09:42:17 PM »
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« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2013, 06:50:55 AM »
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Dunno if it has, very fitting mate :)

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2014, 01:41:45 AM »
Those of you who know me know that this thread is very near and dear to me and you also know that the auto embedding of videos hasn't worked for some time.

It took me a long time to get my head around it but I finally figured out the problem.

I've fixed the first few videos.

Unfortunately I don't have to get to the others right now but I'll work on them over the next day or two.

At least now I know how to fix them.  :)
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« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2014, 08:34:34 PM »
 :)

It took the better part of a week, in between other things but AFAIK ALL videos are now working.

Please let me know if they aren't.

Chris, I'm still not clear on the wife count.

I know I had a very pleasant chat with one last night but which number is she again?  ;zq :-*
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« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2014, 03:41:27 PM »
 rofl rofl rofl

Four, but she's had more :)

Want me to add up the long term live-togethers ? Depending upon definition that could take a while :)

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #84 on: February 19, 2014, 09:26:11 AM »
 :)

To get back on topic this is my maternal grandfather in 1943.

He left the army in December 1945 as a staff sergeant. With two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Combat Infantryman Badge.

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2014, 12:48:55 AM »
Say a prayer for peace...

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #86 on: October 19, 2014, 04:32:47 AM »
Here are a few new ones.  Or at least new to this thread.



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« Reply #87 on: October 19, 2014, 04:35:43 AM »
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« Reply #88 on: October 19, 2014, 04:43:10 AM »
And a all too true comment from Yitzhak Rabin on the catch-22 of military preparedness.

The profession of soldiering embraces a certain paradox. We take the best and bravest of our young men into the army. We supply them with equipment which costs a virtual fortune. We rigorously train them for the day when they must do their duty - and we expect them to do it well. Yet we fervently pray that that day will never come - that the planes will never take flight, the tanks will never move forward, the soldiers will never mount the attacks for which they have been trained so well.

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« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2015, 07:28:16 PM »
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/70818274/les-munro-last-remaining-dambuster-dies

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Brave and principled but compassionate and unassuming - Les Munro was the sort of Kiwi character many talk about but few live up to.

With his death on Tuesday New Zealand lost one of the greatest of a generation that put service before self.

In conflict he bravely gave service to his country in the one of the most daring raids of WWII with the Dambusters.

Les Munro leaning out of the cockpit of a Lancaster, which he flew on the Dam Busters raid.
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Les Munro leaning out of the cockpit of a Lancaster, which he flew on the Dam Busters raid.

In peace he gave decades of service to his small community and then stood up to help when his wartime mates were in danger of being forgotten.

Prime Minister John Key said New Zealand has "lost a remarkable man who led a remarkable life" with the passing of Munro, the last remaining Dambuster from the RAF 617 Squadron.

Munro died in Tauranga Hospital on Tuesday at 6.15am.

Les Munro, pictured at the Bomber Command Memorial, London.
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Les Munro, pictured at the Bomber Command Memorial, London.

"I was honoured to meet Les Munro in person when I attended the presentation of his medals to Motat just a few months ago," Key said.

"His contribution to his country and his generosity will not be forgotten," he said.

Munro's son, Graeme, said his father died "peacefully, after a very short illness".
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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #90 on: August 04, 2015, 07:29:39 PM »

How I used to love this song as a youngster.
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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2015, 07:40:28 PM »
Yeah,

I saw the news today but thought our resident Kiwi would post it :)

Amazing man, to have lived so long after being on what was honestly one of the most dangerous raids of WWII.

The patron of my high school was Sir Barnes Wallis and he sorta lived up the road from me, like a few miles but four houses :) He always said he really wondered if anyone was coming back. It was so deep, so early in the war with German defenses very strong and much as we revere the Lancaster it was not really the most sophisticated of aircraft or the most suited to low level flight but they did, in simultaneous hits on multiple targets flying so low they were under wires more than once and with a very, very strange weapon that was only ever used that night.

I recall Barnes saying he tried to get the RAF to keep a few of the specially modified aircraft available but the RAF was so stretched (gee, what's new?) that they couldn't. If they had the Tirpitz might have been the second bouncing bomb target, instead Tallboys, also a Barnes bomb, were used.

Strange that a very strong pacifist produced such weapons.

Slowly the old vets go, all you can really say is RIP...

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2015, 08:02:44 PM »
Strange that a very strong pacifist produced such weapons.

Interesting thought there, I know of another committed pacifist who after much debate enlisted and served. He became one of NZ's official war artists, that lasted about 3 days as the Germans invaded Crete, where he was wounded, captured and kept as a POW for the rest of the War.
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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2015, 08:06:10 PM »
Yeah, people get wired to one thing, world needs something else - if you look at the scientist list of the Manhattan Project a lot of them were total pacifists and produced the Armageddon weapon.

Science sometimes, the pursuit of pure science is a fast track to weaponry a lot of the time.

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #94 on: August 05, 2015, 09:17:24 PM »
Strange that a very strong pacifist produced such weapons.

Interesting thought there, I know of another committed pacifist who after much debate enlisted and served. He became one of NZ's official war artists, that lasted about 3 days as the Germans invaded Crete, where he was wounded, captured and kept as a POW for the rest of the War.
I had to cut that post short, the laptop battery was failing badly, the meal was nearly on the table. Austen was a relative and part of quite a story of people who fought wars. I'm running out of time now so let me get back to this later.
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« Reply #95 on: August 06, 2015, 07:56:25 AM »
Does sound like an interesting story, will be waiting with interest :)

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2015, 01:46:02 PM »
Oh right Austen I think we might've mentioned Austen at the restaurant recently, re-marrying at 90 something...
Anyway this post is for Sir Michael Beetham Marshall of the RAF, his wife is a friend of Mum's.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11957795/Marshal-of-the-RAF-Sir-Michael-Beetham-obituary.html
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« Reply #97 on: November 07, 2015, 01:50:55 PM »
Austen Deans, artis,t war artist (ever so briefly), prisoner of war and a good bloke.
A picture is worth a thousand words so follow the link and see some of his work, I have an oil painting he did of our farm for my parents wedding present.

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Austen+Deans

A selfie as a POW

http://www.art-newzealand.com/Issues21to30/30c07.jpg

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #98 on: November 07, 2015, 02:48:38 PM »
Oh right Austen I think we might've mentioned Austen at the restaurant recently, re-marrying at 90 something...
Anyway this post is for Sir Michael Beetham Marshall of the RAF, his wife is a friend of Mum's.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11957795/Marshal-of-the-RAF-Sir-Michael-Beetham-obituary.html

Thanks for that did not know he had died.

I worked for him briefly at SHAPE in the early 70s, very easy man to get on with, surprising in senior rank RAF officers at the time.

RIP

Edit: Must have quoted wrong post, referring to your first of course.

Austen sounds so typical of that generation, could use more of them now.

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Re: Wars and the men who fight them...
« Reply #99 on: October 20, 2016, 07:43:09 PM »
Here's a tribute to the modern diggers

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